Episode 21: The Truth About Perfectionism and the Good Girl Script with Brooke Jean, MA, LPC
What If Everything You’ve Been Taught About Success, Worth, and Womanhood Was Never Meant for You?
What if the rules you’ve been trying so hard to follow—about how to succeed, how to be a “good” woman, how to prove your worth—were never actually designed with you in mind?
In this week’s episode, I’m joined by Brooke Jean, MA, LPC—therapist, coach, speaker, and host of The Unperfected Pod—for an unfiltered, soul-deep conversation about reclaiming your truth in a world that demands your perfection.
Brooke shares the personal stories that cracked her wide open: walking away from the “perfect” corporate life, surviving the ripple effects of community trauma, and facing the raw edges of postpartum depression. These weren’t just painful moments—they were invitations to wake up, unravel, and come home to herself.
Together, we explore:
Why the “good girl” script is a trap—and how it keeps women locked in burnout, self-doubt, and shame
The shift from outsourcing worth to owning it—and why this changes everything
How to feel your feelings without drowning in them or shutting them down
Moving from trauma stories to empowerment stories, without bypassing the very real pain
The radical wisdom of feminine rhythms—receiving, resting, nourishing, then creating
Why so many women feel disconnected, depleted, and unfulfilled—and how to begin reclaiming joy, wholeness, and purpose
Authenticity as a form of leadership—not a trend, but a transformation
This episode is part soul medicine, part revolution. Brooke doesn’t offer polished solutions or perfection. Instead, she offers truth, tenderness, and the powerful reminder that maybe you were never the problem.
Maybe you’ve just been trying to thrive within systems and stories that were never built for your brilliance.
So if you’ve ever felt like you’re too much, not enough, or just plain tired of chasing something that never feels like “it”—this conversation is your invitation to pause, soften, and remember:
You already have the power.
You just have to remember who you are.
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Welcome to Redefining Us, where we explore sexuality, identity, motherhood, and mental health to help women thrive authentically. Let's break free from roles that limit us and create a life where you can truly be yourself. Welcome back to Redefining Us. I'm your host, Stephanie Contra O'Hara. I'm a licensed professional counselor. And today I have with me Brooke Jean, who's a master's level therapist, an LPC in the state of Colorado, coach, speaker, and host of the Unperfected Pod on a mission to normalize normal. She believes that life isn't perfect, but it can be unperfected. And using blend of energy work, counseling, coaching, and facilitation, she guides her audience to let of why they think they are in order to create the life they've been waiting for. So welcome, Brooke. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here. Yes, I'm so happy that you decided to come on. I know you're very busy, so I appreciate your time. I wanted to just jump off right into the questions and... I mean, as listeners know, this podcast is called Redefining Us. So I'd love to hear your personal story of like redefining who you are and your journey. I know you've been through potentially a couple evolutions of who Brooke Jean is. So yeah, I'd love to hear that.
SPEAKER_00:2:12
Yeah. I mean, first I want to normalize how healthy it is to be that work in progress, that continual evolution of coming home to yourself and redefining who you are minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day. It's not like we decide and then we're stuck with that identity. And then we decide again when we have a midlife crisis and we stick with that identity. It's like, I have a real pivotal moment that I'll share the story with you. But I also want to normalize that the Brooke Jean that I am today is actually different than the Brooke Jean that I was last week, last month, last year when I rebranded and all the things. And it gets to be that way. And sometimes we box ourselves in because we feel like we're going to confuse people. But a big thing in my story, which is really where my brand, Unperfected, came from was was that I grew up with the good girl complex, right? Trying to, that was that high achieving, high performing, perfectionistic type A, make everybody smile, bring home the good grades type of child. And I feel like I had done everything that I was supposed to do. I was like in the corporate world, climbing the corporate ladder was kind of at the top of that, the pinnacle of that. I had a family. I'd been with my partner for eight years. We've been raising my son for 10. We owned a home. We had a 529 college account for my kiddo. We had the 401ks. We had all of it. And I was deeply unfulfilled and on the brink of burnout. So I had this facade of who I thought I was, which was this badass corporate leader who was super successful and blah, blah, blah. And yet, in order to kind of cope with the pressure that came with being the perfect mom, the perfect leader, the perfect wife, the perfect community member... came a slew of coping mechanisms that were super unhealthy. I call it the trifecta, my wine, brie cheese, and Amazon Prime. So I was, you know, waking up in a shame spiral because I'd eaten a bunch and drank a bunch and was short with my family the night before. So then I would be in the shame spiral. So then I would double down on the efforting and showing that I was worthy and proving my value through what I could do to like basically sprint through my day and at the end of the night do it again. And I did that for a decade until I couldn't do it anymore. And I was running a super target in Aurora, Colorado. It was a$45 million business. I had 250 employees. It was a second assignment. It was a broken store that I took over and had to fix in six months because we were going to pilot a remodel. And we were doing the damn thing. And I had an extraordinary team. And then the Aurora Theater shooting happened. And that was across the street from my store. And most of my early morning logistics team was in the theater that night. And that collective community trauma split me wide open in every way you can imagine. Not at first. At first, I went into helping mode and repair mode and healing mode for my team and their families and our communities and rebuilding, really. And then nine months later, I went and got married, which is a major life transition, which will also kick you in the tits if you didn't know that. And I went and sat on a beach in Maui for 10 days and I regulated my nervous system for what I now understand as a therapist for the first time probably ever. And it was in that relaxation that all of a sudden all these childhood memories started flooding in. And I was like, shit. Shit. And so I knew stuff. I knew that like who I'd become this like hard, intense leader doing it all. But then having this dirty little secret where I would drink and eat and spend like that, who I'd become like wasn't actually who I am. Yeah. And I knew I was going to really need a process of coming home to myself to redefine who I am. And so my poor husband on our honeymoon, I was the breadwinner. I was like, I'm going to have to quit my job. Like, I can't do the work I can feel is bubbling up inside of me, which is going to get me on my literal life purpose path.
UNKNOWN:6:53
Right.
SPEAKER_00:6:54
I can't do that while working 60 hours a week in this high pressure retail management while raising a kid like I won't. I'll just keep grinding to provide for our family because that's what I know how to do. So I left Target. They took such good care of me on the way out. I took six months off to shed the corporate skin, to heal, to get into therapy, to do yoga, to hike, to remember who the fuck I was like. I didn't know I was a mom and a Target queen. That's it. I had no real identity. Like who is Brooke Jean? That little girl that loves to laugh and dance and is passionate and silly and fun and loves playing in the ocean. I'd forgotten who she was. I'd been responsible since I was eight years old. And so for me, it was that massive pivot of like, oh, I am not my work. My work is not my identity. My role as a mother is not my identity. What else is here? And then I decided to go back to school and get my master's in counseling psychology and launched a coaching and counseling practice and been doing that successfully for nine years. But a few years in, I had my second baby, which was 14 years later after having my first. And I was knee deep in postpartum depression and anxiety. And I was like nursing Chloe in the middle of the night. And I'll never forget, like all I was pumped with all this fluid during the delivery and it had all like settled down to my ankles. And so I was in excruciating physical pain. Plus I hadn't slept in days upon days. And I was looking out the window, nursing her, crying. And I just had this thought like, what have I done? Why did I have another baby? Can I even do this? Am I even made for this? And my brain went to some really scary places. And because I'm a therapist, I knew that those thoughts weren't... That wasn't me. That was the depression talking. But I zoomed out, Steph, and I saw this parallel where there was this rise in expectation of the modern mom. Since I'd had Camden, now we're not just working. We're the breadwinners. Now we're not just... cooking meals. They have to be soy free, dairy free, dye free, nut free, fucking everything free. We're not just taking care of our children. We're breaking generational cycles of trauma and building sensory play games like bro. And then we're just posting it all online in our size two body like, hey, look how happy I am. I'm so grateful. And I'm like, I'm not grateful. I don't know that I like this. But I saw that that rise in the expectation of the modern mom paralleled a rise in our mental health issues. We are drinking more than we've ever drank. We have more PTSD. We have more suicide. We have more everything in some of these categories. We've surpassed men. And that's when I went through another awakening of redefining myself. I am unsubscribing from these ideals of perfection, this mom I'm supposed to be, this wife I'm supposed to be, this body I'm supposed to have, this voice I'm supposed to use. I'm unsubscribing from all of that. I'm creating my life in an unperfected way where I allow myself to lead with my core values, whatever those might be. And that was a big... pivot moment in redefining me of I'm not doing I'm not keeping up with the Kardashians. I'm like, what what matters to me today? What's the one thing that I value and how can I bring that into my family and all of that? And so that became a huge rebrand and a huge body of work and an embodiment that I exist in day in and day out where it's like. Let's embrace our messy. Let's shed the shoulds and let's live authentically. And whether you're a mom or leader, a CEO, a grandmother, the president of the United States, you are somebody underneath all of those roles and titles. And it's really important to come home to and reveal what that is, because that usually has our magic.
SPEAKER_01:12:04
Well, I'm going to say, if the listener's not already inspired and hooked in, I'm not sure what's going on in their brain.
SPEAKER_00:12:11
That was a long-ass answer. That was a long answer. I apologize. But you asked, girl. I'm going to give you the deets.
SPEAKER_01:12:23
I think what really stands out to me in your story is both of the moments where of like the lows or what people would maybe like identify as lows, you really were able to make both of those into wake up calls or opportunities to do something different rather than resigning to this is just what my life is now or here I am in my stuckness. And you're like, no, that's not what I want for myself and for myself. My family. I need to do something different. Otherwise, I'm going to, I don't know, die on this hill like a sad person. But you're like, fuck no. So I really admire that, I guess. A part of for you as well as like in your story and kind of really letting other people know that even if you're feeling stuck and trapped, that doesn't have to be your forever. No,
SPEAKER_00:13:18
you can't let your trauma define you. So part of redefining us is turning our pain into power. And first of all, we all have hard things. Some might be harder than others. And we also all have this incredible resilience and strength to overcome. Listener, you have it in you too. It might be buried. It might be a little drowned out, but you have it. We all do. It's not like I'm any stronger than anybody else. We just forget. But it's about healing the things that you've been through and then writing an empowering story about it. So, yeah, I was the oldest of two siblings, one who was born with a brain tumor and almost died and another with severe mental health. And that's why I became responsible at eight. And that can either be a sad story or that could be the reason why I was a perfectionist, which led me to this extraordinary body of work that I get to live and breathe every day. Yeah, I got pregnant unplanned in college, but that also saved my life. Yeah, I didn't marry my baby daddy. He cheated on me. But that also brought me to my husband. It's like when I look at and I do this life timeline exercise with my clients where I have them in a timeline style, put their pivotal moments in their life, the hard stuff and the beautiful stuff and to find a thread. A common thread of truth in that, which is like. I am strong. I am resilient. I was meant to overcome these things. I have what it takes. The universe is always conspiring in my favor, even when it really doesn't feel like it is. And having that empowering take, not in a spiritual bypass kind of way, but in a I have the power to choose my fucking story and my narrative. And I can either pull out of these hard things a victim story or a victorious story. And that doesn't mean I didn't do all the years of therapy and personal development to heal my wounds. And I still have wounds that I work on every day. So I face the hard thing. I feel the feelings. I move them out of my body. And then I get busy consciously focusing on what I want to create in my life. And I do that dance back and forth, back and forth. And you, listener, have the power to do that too. And you, Steph, you have the power to do that too. We can only let our pain define us if we can turn it into an empowerment story. If you really think about it and you think about the hardest things you've ever been through, what did it teach you about yourself? What did it reveal to you about you that if everything were just comfy, cozy, easy, peasy, lemon squeezy your whole life, you would have never come into contact with? I wouldn't know what I'm made of if I wouldn't have skated in the depths of hell time after time after time again. And I also wouldn't be as compassionate of a human being if I hadn't gone through those dark nights so many nights. So for me... when we change our relationship to pain, things can really shift in how we redefine ourselves.
SPEAKER_01:16:44
Yeah, I think oftentimes people identify their feelings or their emotions or thoughts and, I don't know, invest in them in a way that can be unproductive to them, right? Like if I were to lean into my anger and rage about X, let's say, Not X the platform, but that's a whole other thing. Anyway.
SPEAKER_00:17:11
You
SPEAKER_01:17:11
just triggered me. You just
SPEAKER_00:17:12
triggered me. Am
SPEAKER_01:17:14
I leading to my anger and rage about something? That is then the story of it, rather than, I don't know, the imagery of a phoenix is kind of coming to me, like arising out of the ashes of that anger and rage and into something more fulfilling or... Productive? productive or yeah I guess meaningful all those things are kind of green true to me because I think yeah there's so many journeys that we all go through or maybe all face and it's like how do you decide to travel down that path
SPEAKER_00:17:53
and anger is important right like this is how I distinguish between am I processing an emotion because as a human being We need to process emotions. Or am I now addicted to my emotion? Because I recently learned that we can become addicted to our emotional responses. And so one of the questions I ask myself is like, is this a bout of rage that I need to just step out of my mind space altogether and let it release in my body and then I can regulate and take action? Or is this my default? Oh, I love to go. I love to go back to irritable. I love to go back to annoyed. I love to go back to resentment. I love to go back to frustration because if that's a neural pathway that we've built in our brains of going to, when we go to frustration, if that's the one we've always done, we actually drop a drip of dopamine. So we can become addicted to our feelings. And yet at the same time, we got to feel our feelings. We got to move emotion out of our body. So that's one of the ways that I decipher. Is this a proper, like not even proper because what is proper? But is this a normal emotional response or is this a pattern for me of default? Because it's easier for me to feel frustrated than it is for me to feel abandonment. Rejection, loneliness, sadness, despair, shame. I'll tell you what, I'd rather feel annoyed than ashamed. So we get addicted to that. It's really interesting. But emotions are normal. We want to move them out of our body somatically. But what we do as humans is we tell ourselves all these stories about the emotion and then we perpetuate the emotion. So then we became afraid to feel our emotions. So then we stuff our emotions and then they come out in really ugly, interesting ways. And then we're even more scared of our emotions. You don't have to fear your emotion. Step out of story. Move it through your body in 60 seconds up to five minutes. And then breathe. But I always tell my clients, you're not allowed to think when you're processing emotion. And they're like, what? No, like your brain is not going to help you. Mm hmm.
SPEAKER_01:20:09
So I think there was some therapist at some point in my many years of therapy journey that said not everything that you think needs to be true or is even your voice like it could be like somebody else's voice or it could be depression speaking to you. So don't believe everything that you think. And that really made me be like, wow, you're right. I don't actually need to believe every single thing that I think or do every single pattern again, because that's what I've always done. I can do something Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:20:41
So we have something like 60 to 80,000 thoughts a day. 80% of them are untrue and unhelpful. And 80% of those are the same thoughts. Untrue and unhelpful thoughts you had yesterday and the day before and the day before. So if you can imagine, this is why we're an anxious population just flinging our poo on each other all day. It's like we're all walking around with these negative thoughts that are releasing hormones that are adrenaline and cortisol that feels like anxiety that we don't want to feel. So then we spew it onto each other. Projection. But what if we were to understand that our brains have just evolved to keep us safe. So they are just constant scanners for problems. And your brain is going to give you 475 catastrophic outcomes that are never going to happen. But you're bigger than your thoughts. You're bigger than your thoughts. So you can't believe them. You can just be playful with them. You got to believe your heart. You got to believe your intuition. Or maybe a deep contemplation is fine. But your thoughts, honey... No, we're not. We're no longer believe in those. Those are not very nice and kind. We're not believing that those are built out of survival strategy. And so because we've had these negative thoughts over and over again, they've gotten built into our biology, which is why they're patterned and default and addictive. So. It's really important that not only we disconnect from believing our thoughts are true, but that we consciously choose to see the good and the golden and the beauty and the enoughness in the world because you can start to build new neural connections around that. And we're like 40 years behind in building positive neural networks. So we've got some work to do, but it will change your life when you start to do that. And I feel like that's part of redefining me too is like when I– Unsubscribed from the ideals of perfectionism, I started managing my monkey mind. I started using neuroplasticity to reprogram my thoughts and my beliefs. I started doing deep subconscious belief works. I started moving trauma out of my body. I started figuring out what feels good in my body. I started trusting my intuition. I strengthened my spiritual practices. That process of unperfecting has a mind, body, and spirit component of just, again, peeling what's not real and what maybe was built out of wanting to be loved and fit in, aka survival mechanism. And then underneath all that is like who I really am, which is just a big ball of love that wants to spread that love in the world. in my own unique flavor of kind of a way. So I feel like redefining me is actually just this big journey of coming home to the truth of who I really am when I strip away all those weird things we do to be safe in the world and to be liked and loved and all that.
SPEAKER_01:23:42
I think it would be really interesting Interesting because the word weird spoke to me there about like if we were to objectively look at all of the behaviors or all of the ways in which we are constantly reaching for connection that are unproductive rather than coming back to this intuitive self-knowing and self-trust that we wouldn't need to reach. We would just almost gravitate towards what we are meant to be connected to rather than feeling like we have to. quote unquote, be weird and reach in this unproductive way.
SPEAKER_00:24:18
Totally. So the big thing that I'm trying to dismantle in our human existence are these collection of weird things that me and my people do that are like people pleasing, codependency, proving energy, like weird things that we do to show that we're worthy, like high achieving and pretending and facade and how you used to act like I was so hard. I look back and I literally want to just like, oh, well, that all that little 20 year old Brooke. Oh, no. Oh, that cutie was just trying so hard to be safe and loved in the world and that it was not the most beautiful expression of that. But we have to have compassion for it. But yeah, when we dismantle all that and we're no longer trying to connect in ways that are inauthentic and also exhaustive, by the way, then we open up for real authentic connection, real intimacy, being seen. But I also think as humans, we're terrified of that. Me being seen in my armor feels more safe than me being seen in my flaws and all of my humanness, my quirks, my weirdness, my shadow, my strengths, my gifts, and my gold. But to be really seen without my protection, nobody taught us how to do that in school. We don't know how to do that. So when we get close to it, we push people away, we put our suit back on, and we wonder why we're so lonely and disconnected.
SPEAKER_01:25:51
Yeah. And unfortunately, there's more and more ways to create distance between ourselves and others nowadays.
SPEAKER_00:25:59
Yeah. And one of the things that I'm geeking out on lately, because I do counseling and coaching and I work with individuals and businesses and teams and groups, is the actual qualitative cost in authenticity in business. So this... process that I've trademarked called Unperfected of healing, revealing, and rising is really to help people unearth their authentic essence and brilliance and to create from that energetic, from that place of authenticity. And I believe that that, especially women coming together in their gifts is going to solve world problems. Truly, I believe this. And So when so many people are showing up to important conversations, whether it's political or in business or in all these boardrooms of power, and we're all coming in masked up and armed up and in some freaking facade, we're not actually seen and we're not actually heard. And we're not even contributing in a way that's genuinely in alignment with who we are, which is love. No wonder it's not working. Whatever we're doing politically and in business, it's not working. And here's how I know. We're sicker than we've ever been.
SPEAKER_01:27:21
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:27:23
So I'm trying to geek out on, like, what are the costs of your organization when your team is coming in armored up? What's possible? Because when I watch women go through this Heal, Reveal, and Rise process, they access more energy, creativity, and vitality. And when you bring energy, creativity, and vitality to everything you do, just your presence, your leadership, your family, your team, your clients, whatever it is, that's going to have a different outcome than coming in guarded up, inauthentic, all the things.
SPEAKER_01:28:03
Yeah. Do you find that the people that you work with in business are oftentimes leading from a place of fear rather than leading from a place of empowerment because they're worried about, I don't know, I'll speak for myself. Sometimes I find myself leading from a place of fear because I'm worried about stepping on other people's toes due to fear of offending them or fear of asking too much. Those two things probably. So yeah, I guess I'm curious, what are common themes that you see when you speak to leaders in businesses about what takes them away from leading from their authentic self?
SPEAKER_00:28:45
Yeah, so it all comes back to fear and a worthiness wound. Okay. So the two categories I see the most, and this isn't for like... I hate bucketing people. It's always in this weird juxtaposition of I love data, but don't you dare bucket a human being, okay? They're so magnificent. They're so brilliant. There's no way you can tell me that they're just this one personality. But I will say that I do like to deduce some things, honey. And so it's like when people are showing up at work inauthentic, they're usually coming from ego, which is fear, or... a worthiness wound, which is also kind of fear, right? Fear of not being enough. And so we're either afraid that we're going to be too much or afraid that we haven't done enough.
SPEAKER_01:29:41
I'm assuming some people could be both even, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_00:29:43
Absolutely. And some people teeter-totter and their team is so confused because it depends on the day of if I feel like I'm doing too much or too little. But yeah, I think a huge issue is that we're all behaving from fear instead of love and oneness. And that's why we're feeling so separate. And that's why we can't see eye to eye. And that's why we can't actually have meaningful discussions that solve complex problems. And because we can't do that, we're stifling creativity. Because we have no idea what the human psyche is actually capable of. We've only scratched the surface of its potentiality. And so I think all this fear that we've been indoctrined into is literally suffocating our potential. And you see it show up in all sorts of interesting and weird ways in leadership.
UNKNOWN:30:39
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:30:40
And we're never going to get it just right because we're human, right? So it's like even somebody like me that has all this awareness about these things, I still show up in ego sometimes. I still show up afraid. I still show up just wanting to be recognized as someone who's doing some good in the world and wanting to be validated. We still get to be human in this, guys. It's going to be messy AF. But I think if we're just trying to grow in our consciousness, we're doing something right.
SPEAKER_01:31:06
Yeah. Yeah. And I think... And this is just something that I would encourage everyone to do is validate their own experience. But also, it's really nice to validate other people. And like, you know, because I find in my life, both personally and professionally, just someone telling me like, oh, I can see that you're trying to do the work and you're not just just chilling and just not trying to be your authentic self or you're not working to, I don't know, empower other people. So yeah, it's good to validate yourself. But I think getting that feedback or giving that feedback, especially to other women, like this podcast for women. So especially to other women, I think it's like really empowering. It can rise or help rise us all up.
SPEAKER_00:31:48
Yes. Yes. So, so much of my work is inspired by Brene Brown's work. And when I see somebody in the arena and you know, you just like you're out here trying to become a better version of yourself. You don't even need to be better. You're golden as you are. And that's really the truth. We just forget. But when you're actually trying to To be a better mom and a better person. And you're trying to heal. And you're trying to stop generational cycles. And you're trying to love thy neighbor and all these things. Girl, you're extraordinary. The ripple of good that that does is huge. And we don't notice it in each other. And we don't call it out nearly enough. And so I love that, what you just offered the group. And one of the things that I love to do is just randomly... give women especially but I mean I will a boy it's a little rare it's a little rare but I love boys and men too but I definitely like my favorite thing is to be on a walk and come near like past like a 12 year old girl and I will just look at her and I'll be like I hope you know your outfit is so cool or I hope you know your energy I like to compliment girls on their energy because I don't want people to feel like they have to have a cool appearance. And I also think that that's what they care about. So you kind of have to meet them on their level, right? I hate people that are extreme in any category. You can't care about what you look like and you shouldn't, you know, you should care about. It's like meet people on their level. But to compliment a girl who you know is in her own head about everything. The world is telling her she's not pretty enough. She's not skinny enough. She's not smart enough. Her hair's too this, blah, blah, blah. When she gets a random, genuine compliment that is like, girl, I really like your vibe. I know that that leaves a wave or something. I love, I go to this gas station and there's a collection of women that work there. And every day I come in, I do something to lift the vibration of the
SPEAKER_01:33:58
establishment.
SPEAKER_00:34:01
Whether it's a joke or I tell them a story about how my day started bad and I'm turning it around or every day. And one day, one of the ladies was like, Do you know that you always bring a ray of sunshine? I said, yeah, I do that shit on purpose. But these ladies, you can just see it in their eyes. They're not getting, they're not really seen. Mm-hmm. Lifts me just as much as it lifts you. So we could we could be better at that step. And I think, gosh, dang, if every single one of us complimented one girl a day. Over a decade. A lot of people's lives. It's big. It's really big. Right.
SPEAKER_01:35:07
Yeah. So I want to ask, why do you think the world needs to hear your message now more than ever? Because, yeah, the world is different now than it was. you know, just a few months ago.
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Yeah. So I just did a free masterclass called Audacity. So maybe we can link that in the show notes. And it's a training where it's kind of my call to women in leadership to remember who the fuck they are and let's start using our voices. Because I do feel like now more than ever, we need women waking up to their power and using it for good. What we're doing isn't working. And what we're naturally gifted at as women, our intuition, our sensitive abilities, our emotional waves, our natural ability to bring people together and connect and conspire, our community, our storytelling, like the things that we are naturally good at that were never recognized on a performance review. We need to remember that those are our gifts. We need to use them unapologetically. We need to be asking difficult questions. We need to be stirring up controversy and we need to be healing ourselves so that we can heal this planet. So now more than ever, I don't want to see women who are doing what their husband tells them to do. Unless In her heart and soul, she really believes it. Now more than ever, I don't want women spending precious energy on having a perfect body when we've got world problems to solve. And by the way, this doesn't mean that you need to go out and run for president and run a business. You healing... literally heals seven generations of women before you and seven generations of women after you. So by you being someone who cares about healing, by you loving your children, I want you to know that you're contributing to the mission powerfully. It's more than enough. By you being authentic, you're contributing to the mission. By you raising a question if something feels weird for you, That is a powerful contribution. By you leading your team with empathy instead of coercion, that is a powerful contribution, right? So this is a call for all women to just remember what we feel in our heart and souls is what's right. And let's use our voices and our gifts to accomplish some things. But what we've been trying to do is... We've been trying to get results in a masculine, male-dominated way, and we're wondering why it's not working for us. Because we weren't designed to do it that way. As women, we were literally designed to receive and create. So if you think of the anatomy of the female body, receive, create. And we're out here hustling. We're out here. I just need another strategy. I just need some more execution. No, babes. Babes. You need to self-nourish, self-care, receive, connect to the earth, connect to your body, connect to the things that feel nourishing because then you're going to download a brilliant idea and then you go create it. You're going to download a brilliant nudge that's like the solution to your problem. And then you go take action. So we've got to come home to our own rhythms, our own natural rhythms. And remember that we're designed to receive and create. And the more that we take care of ourselves and take care of each other, the more nourishment we can create collectively, the more we're going to access what's really needed in a time like now. And then we're going to be nourished enough to go do it. We can't do it from a place of depletion. We have to receive and then create. So Unperfected is about unhooking from this old paradigm of hustle and enoughness and perfection and do it this way. so that we can remember who we are, so that we can show up and get different outcomes. And so that's why I think we need it now more than ever, because I think there's been some voices at the table that have been dominating the conversation for too long. And I think now we need all of our voices and we need all of our hearts and we need all of our Yeah. Well, thank you for sharing all of that. I just want to
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echo that I do think women are really gifted at even what you just said I'm going to say the same words just like repeating it because I think it's true of like receiving and creating because if you can't allow yourself to receive I don't think there's space to create but And so I think trying your best to really dismantle or to remove barriers from allowing yourself to receive is really important. important because i think there's a lot of women out there just need to be really independent and that's going to bring me success i need to you know do everything on my own i need to do everything for everyone all the things you kind of talked about in an unperfected way yeah i don't know so many things that i have thoughts and hopefully other people do and i'd love to continue this conversation on social media and all the other platforms because i think there's a lot of goodness to be said and yeah so with that i'd love for you to share where people can find you and all the information that Brooke shares about where to find her will be in the show notes.
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Yeah, yeah. I love it, babe, because this is a conversation that is hot and heavy right now. So if you come to Instagram at Brooke Jean Unperfected, I'm doing lives there. I post a lot of content there to support you on your journey. My website is liveunperfected.com. I have a podcast. It's called The Unperfected Pod. We just did our 100th episode. So yeah, reach out and let us know what landed in this conversation so we can continue the conversation and continue to rise together. But Steph, thank you so much for having me. And it's been so cool to just see you continue to heal, reveal and rise and have you in the mastermind and be someone that really gets to see you stepping into your power. It's really beautiful to see. So keep doing your thing, girl. I'm celebrating you. Thank you. I appreciate
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that. We all need to celebrate ourselves more because that's, I think, another thing that women need. don't do great at. And I'll be honest, I don't do excellent at. So that's one of my 2024 goals is celebrating 2025. I don't even know what year it is anymore.
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She has a baby people. She has a baby. Leave her alone. My bio too. I don't think you read that right, but I love you and it's okay. The bio will be cracked in the show notes. Nobody cares about the bio, but it's just hilarious.
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I love you so much. Thank you for
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