Episode 8: Breaking the Silence on Maternal Mental Health with Cre Chritz
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What if finding the right support during postpartum could change everything? In this episode, we dive into the challenges many new moms face, from physical recovery to emotional well-being, and how a lack of accessible resources often leaves them feeling isolated. Together, we explore ways to prioritize maternal mental health and navigate this pivotal time with the care every mother deserves.
Creinthea (Cre) Chritz, a psychiatric nurse practitioner and master's-prepared educator, shares about her journey into mental health care, her work with mothers and women across life stages, and how her personal experiences shaped her professional path.
Cre shares her transition from teaching to nursing and her passion for addressing the unique mental health needs of women. She opens up about her own challenges with gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, and postpartum anxiety, which inspired her to found Coherent Care Women's and Maternal Wellness. Her practice, based in Denver, Colorado, also serves women in Florida and Iowa, with plans to expand further.
What You'll Learn in This Episode:
Cre's personal journey through a high-risk pregnancy and postpartum challenges.
The importance of maternal mental health care and why it's often overlooked.
How hormonal shifts during and after pregnancy impact mental health and relationships.
Strategies for prescribers to ask the right questions and foster trust with patients.
How Coherent Care offers women-centered mental health care tailored to their unique needs.
The role of community and non-pharmaceutical resources in supporting maternal mental health.
The connection between postpartum care, mental health, and intimacy in relationships.
Cre also dives into the stigma women face when seeking help for postpartum mental health concerns and emphasizes the need for open conversations, better assessments, and comprehensive care that includes everything from therapy and medication to support for intimacy and libido changes postpartum.
Key Takeaways:
Women’s mental health care must address the entirety of their experiences, from adolescence to motherhood and beyond.
Postpartum issues like anxiety, OCD behaviors, and intrusive thoughts are common and treatable—but often overlooked in assessments.
It’s vital to normalize seeking help and ensure women have access to compassionate, informed care providers.
Prescribers and therapists can work together to support women in navigating the fourth trimester and beyond.
Connect with Cre:
www.coherentcare.org
Instagram and Youtube is @coherent_care
Resources Mentioned:
Coherent Care Women's and Maternal Wellness
Postpartum Support International (Charleston Chapter)
Edinburgh Postnatal Depression Scale
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16:12:46 Welcome back to redefining us. This is Stephanie O'hara. I'm a license professional counselor, and here with me today I have.
16:12:55 Pre curtis.
16:12:57 Am I saying that right.
16:12:58 Great, close.
16:12:59 Okay, go ahead. Okay.
16:13:02 But I apologize. I'm already messing up your name.
16:13:04 It's okay. Listen. As as long as you got create we are good.
16:13:11 Okay, and she's a psychiatric nurse, practitioner, and a master's prepared, and she's here to talk to us about.
16:13:19 Her journey, of.
16:13:22 Working with moms as well as the importance, and of working with women as a prescriber.
16:13:29 As that's oftentimes not something that is focused on with prescribers and a woman's journey so welcome.
16:13:38 Thank you. Thank you so much for having me here. I'm excited to chat with you. You've been busy.
16:13:42 Yes. Well, I took.
16:13:43 Putting out some good content.
16:13:45 I'm so glad that we got a chance to connect in this way again.
16:13:49 Well again, as in like this way for the 1st time, but connecting again for a second time. So I'm so glad to have you on today.
16:13:56 Yes.
16:13:58 Thank you so much. Thank you. I'm excited.
16:14:01 So. Yeah, why don't you tell us a little bit about who you are who you work with? And yeah, what kind of led you to want to do this work.
16:14:12 Absolutely well,
16:14:15 As you said, my name is my full name's Corinthia. Nobody ever calls me that and my journey starts when well, I started off as a teacher, and I was really the franchise with how everything was going with the little kiddos when it comes to mental health. So I switch my career, and my grandma says I'm a glutton for punishment because I work from education to nursing.
16:14:37 But in that sense I ended up in a journey of working with Icu emergency care in patient outpatient, and I really got to get a lay of the land about mental health care in the sense of how we're prescribing for individuals, and this led me into private practice, and so on, and so forth.
16:14:58 But I feel like fast forward my true journey as opening my own practice really started when I myself.
16:15:06 Got pregnant. And I think we all, as women, have this idea about what pregnancy is gonna look like. And you know, birthing is, gonna be. You know, it's gonna be beautiful flowers, popcorn dove coming out of the air, and deer coming out and licking their faces. If we're having a water birth, and it didn't happen that way for me at all.
16:15:28 I actually ended up having I got diagnosed with gestational.
16:15:36 Hmm.
16:15:35 And I was not prepared for that. That is not something that I grew up really much about. It's not really discussed much. And there's a lot of shame and connection to that for women who get diagnosed with anything while they're pregnant. And I wanted to learn more about that. And I realized there wasn't a lot of options out there to talk about it, and I wanted to know more about it. So fast forward through my pregnant.
16:15:59 Peanuts jumps in. So I start having anxiety about what's gonna be, and.
16:16:05 Then I got diagnosed again, this time with preclampsia.
16:16:11 Hmm.
16:16:10 And so I had to have a rush induction. I labored for 3 days they broke my water.
16:16:17 Still she wouldn't come. Finally I had to be rushed in for an emergency, and in that timeframe I actually lost a lot of blood. My epidural wore off.
16:16:28 I started feeling it.
16:16:31 As they were closing me back, up.
16:16:34 And they had to put me down with even harder medications.
16:16:37 And subsequently, as you can imagine, I started postpartum off with a bang. Here, I see I'm coming out with.
16:16:46 Nothing like I expected it was gonna be, and even more so there really weren't a lot of options. So postpartum, you know, even more difficult for me, I thought, than even.
16:16:57 Pregnant, because now I have this tiny baby, and I'm scared. I know that on a previous.
16:17:03 Podcast, you had mentioned that our episode, you had mentioned that you experience that anxiety.
16:17:09 And I remember I would keep her monitor near my bed, and even when she was sleep I would check my monitor, check the monitor check the Monitor, and I could look 5 min, and I still would have to keep looking at her and adjusting the screen. Things like that. I did that all night long.
16:17:25 And it really led me into feeling like, who can I talk to about this? Luckily I had.
16:17:31 Join Postpartum International, which got me in touch with like a Charleston chapter.
16:17:36 And that's currently where I live.
16:17:38 And so I really got into learning about what are some options for women? I started off, as you know, somebody looking for resources. And then how I've become the resource which is really fun. But it didn't start out that way, and I felt like there wasn't really much for me and people like me. You were dealing with it, and there was suffering and silence, and.
16:18:01 I wanted to reach out, but I felt like.
16:18:04 For your prescriber. You know you do this for a living, so you should have all the answers, and I didn't have all the answers, and I felt like I should.
16:18:12 And so, as a result, I started putting more of a closer lens on how women are treated.
16:18:18 In the mental health field as it becomes.
16:18:21 The when they come in for being diagnosed, or addressing possible prescriptions and evaluations.
16:18:28 And really trying to do something a little bit different.
16:18:32 And that's what that's how coherent care women's and maternal wellness was rounded.
16:18:37 From a mom who is.
16:18:39 Freaking out on the C-section table and said, I've got to do something different, and women have to have more options.
16:18:47 So. I'm from Denver, Colorado. So I made sure that I open my practice there, and I also service.
16:18:56 And I service Iowa. And I'm hopefully gonna open up a few more locations. But yeah, this along for the ride. At this point I work with adolescents.
16:19:07 College bound girls.
16:19:09 Cow bearing age, pregnant postpartum.
16:19:13 Those who don't want to have kids, you know, but they're professionals. They're just handling their own business to, I mean, I hope this isn't disrespectful. But my golden girls, my like ladies who are a little bit older, too. Yeah, I I think we need to have a space, you know women ran, and I love it. That's what I also love about what you're offering, too.
16:19:33 Yeah, I think the journey of woman, no matter whether they're 10 or, you know, 45 or 65. It's like you're constantly becoming like a new version of yourself.
16:19:46 And I think the.
16:19:50 Aspects that aren't talked about in either prescriber relationship or in the even therapy relationship is like, how are those transformations like impacting you.
16:20:01 Mental health wise? Not just like, okay. Let's talk about.
16:20:04 You know you have this new baby to take care of. Then you have to make sure that they're sleeping and eating and pooping and tracking all the things like, well, who's tracking like your journey? As the mom going through the transformation.
16:20:20 Oh, 100%.
16:20:19 Like. It's not just that you have this baby to take care of. It's like, How do you take care of you at all, face. But again, we're here kind of talking more about maternal mental health like during that.
16:20:31 Timeframe, and how significant is it for.
16:20:35 Providers and prescribers to be very attuned.
16:20:38 To that timeframe.
16:20:41 And I think there is like a there's a lot of fear when a woman goes to a prescriber after she's had a child like. There's that fear of, you know. We take them in for their checkups, and they have us do the famed Edinburgh scale. Where do you want? Are you having dark thoughts. Have you thought about? You know.
16:21:00 Not being alive, you know, and you don't want to be.
16:21:04 So alarmist about what you might be going through. But then you also don't want to.
16:21:10 Near concrete over what you're actually dealing with.
16:21:14 And you know there should be a lot more women who feel that they.
16:21:19 Can have those conversations, and they're not.
16:21:20 Feeling like they're failing their loved ones or their child or themselves, when there's a heck of a lot of changes that's happening hormonally. And if you throw breastfeeding in, there's a whole different game.
16:21:35 Yeah.
16:21:36 Yeah, I think it's interesting. That idea that you alluded to a little bit around providers, maybe not asking the right questions or not suggest same things because they don't want to be alarmist, and how that creates like this barrier of people feeling like well, maybe I shouldn't mention it because they didn't ask me about it.
16:21:58 Like. Maybe it's something to be ashamed of that, only I'm experiencing. So why should I bring it up to my provider if they didn't ask me.
16:22:06 And so I think, obviously, you can't ask someone about every single thing in an appointment, but to maybe even have, like an open, ended question of like, is there anything that's going on that I didn't ask you about, that you think would be something you want to address like in this appointment?
16:22:24 I actually learned from a mentor of mine, that a good way, to address that is.
16:22:29 I really started working with the concept.
16:22:33 Tell me about.
16:22:35 XYZ. You know. So tell me about.
16:22:38 The bedtime routine after the baby's in bed.
16:22:42 Tell me what that looks like for you.
16:22:43 Because I think that would be very telling. I know a few women who, after they had a kid, it's like they're.
16:22:49 They're off the rafters like that.
16:22:51 Press. They're not sleeping. They're not eating. They're in their heads.
16:22:54 But you know, if it's oh, yeah, I'm fine.
16:22:57 But it's not, you know. And and it's okay. Because.
16:23:01 Many of us weren't. But we don't want to talk about it, because you don't want to be the only one of us want to be the only one.
16:23:08 Yeah, that anxiety.
16:23:09 Yeah, and there are lots of different options.
16:23:13 It's okay. Yeah.
16:23:14 Sorry.
16:23:14 I was gonna say, I wanted to also kind.
16:23:18 Talk about that anxiety piece. I think we talked so much about postpartum anxiety and postpartum depression. It may be not a lot just more.
16:23:26 Then we have previously. But what about the other? Like postpartum, like mental health concerns like I found myself not just having anxiety, but also this, almost like.
16:23:36 Ocd type of behavior like intrusive thoughts around like, is my baby going to be okay? Am I gonna accidentally hurt my baby like I don't wanna hurt my baby, but it what happens if I fall while I'm holding her? What happens if I slip on the ice outside like.
16:23:52 These are kind of thoughts that would.
16:23:54 You know, go around in my brain and.
16:23:56 I remember going to my doctor's office, and they did ask me whether I wanted to harm myself, and I did those like postpartum assessments. But.
16:23:53 Ahem!
16:24:04 Never did it mention anywhere? Did I fear that I would harm like my baby like.
16:24:09 No, I don't want to hurt myself, but I was afraid that I would hurt her so like, Yeah.
16:24:15 I think there just needs to potentially be more assessments that are happening in the doctor's offices.
16:24:21 In your postpartum visit, or, again, maybe you have to at least know that it's something to seek help out for.
16:24:14 Yes, I 100% agree. I think once we get past that conversation of asking them like, Do you want to hurt yourself. Do you want to? Do you see any positive connection to harming your baby? And if we can check that big, shiny red box off and go? Okay, that's not the sense that you know I'm not concerned for psychosis. Then we don't need to be really intense about okay, you know, do we.
16:24:53 Need to look at emergent situations, because I think that's the biggest thing for every mother is. I don't want my child taken away from me, and I don't want to be separated from them, and I don't want to be.
16:25:05 Deemed as unfit.
16:25:07 You know I carried this trial for however many months. I don't want to look like I'm capable.
16:25:12 And yeah, you're absolutely right. Those a lot of those postpartum disparities, as far as like Ocd, you know, I experience that, too, with like counting behaviors and checking the stairs. And you know I had my husband redo the match on there, because I was afraid I was gonna slip with her, and you had mentioned, like slipping on ice things like that. And the intrusive thoughts like to a degree. These things are normal.
16:25:35 And it's it's a protective mechanism. So it's actually good for us to have a sense of.
16:25:42 You know, concern, because this is what actually keeps the baby alive. So worrying about what could happen. As a result, we do everything that we can to make the make the quote unquote, Nestor, for the child. But if it turns into a matter of now, you can't leave the house. You're not showering. You're not eating, you know. You cannot carry on with your activities of daily living.
16:26:06 Then that's when things change the game, you know. That's where that.
16:26:10 That anxiety seeps in, and I and I know that I've worked so many different women where they're like, well, is it just like the postpartum blue, is it? Everybody has.
16:26:17 That's supposed to be a good, maybe 2 weeks, girl that's not supposed to be months and months and months.
16:26:23 And I think that women should know the difference between that. So they don't feel like there's something wrong with them, and there's nothing wrong with getting a little bit of the help, a little bit of evaluation and you know. Then there's also postpartum depression which is onset after the 2 week postpartum blues where you really feel like things just aren't changing and you're just holding them. You're not feeling that connection. Since some women have had that.
16:26:47 Association was like, you know, I'm looking at my baby, and I'm happy. They're here, and they're cute.
16:26:52 But oh, I'm stressed out and.
16:26:55 You know they're mine, but.
16:26:58 I don't see me in them, you know, and then you start really feeling like I should be feeling more connected. And if you have somebody else that's having that connection. That's even scarier. But you know, when it comes to evaluating, I think it's.
16:27:12 Important to consider like.
16:27:14 There are options like you said how we're asking the question and not going straight from 0 to 10.
16:27:20 But even making sure that they have options that may not necessarily lead to a medication.
16:27:25 It could honestly be like. We need to have a conversation and point you into the right direction, and.
16:27:31 Make sure you're going to a great therapist, you know. You're going to a community offering, and I know that you're offering that, too, like there's different places that they can go to be able to have a community.
16:27:44 You know, and of course our medications. But these don't have to be long term, and I I know from myself. You know I I come from the background where.
16:27:52 I didn't grow up with medication, being something that was talked about in the home.
16:27:56 And so resigning myself to have a conversation with somebody was who was defeating.
16:28:02 You know, and then you get to a point where you think you know this doesn't say who I am. As a mother. It just says that my hormones are getting the best of me right now, and we don't figure this out.
16:28:14 Yeah, I think it would be really interesting.
16:28:17 Like, if you're having meeting with your provider while you're pregnant, just even talking a little bit more about like, how are these hormones potentially going to impact me. I think that was like a something that now, as a someone who's been through childbirth, I would have thought like I need to explore more of, because I'm like, Wow.
16:28:38 They hit me hard, I thought being pregnant was like a hormonal coaster. Oh, no, no, not for me, at least the aftermath of.
16:28:47 Having a baby was the hormonal roller, and like.
16:28:51 I don't know being a little bit more.
16:28:53 Like ready for that, because again, I have, even as a therapist, I've heard about postpartum depression and postpartum anxiety. And I was like, oh, yeah, I know all about that. Like, it's gonna be fine. I have coping skills. I have strategies. But that's like.
16:29:11 Having coping skills and strategies. When I'm.
16:29:14 Balanced hormonally. Not when I'm you know, in the 4th trimester.
16:29:19 Still experiencing a lot of additional hormones.
16:29:22 That my body's just not used to having.
16:29:28 Yes.
16:29:27 In the trenches, falling and in the trenches.
16:29:32 Yeah, I mean, I I love that you had touched on that, too. You had mentioned about having that conversation with the prescriber for those who already have one while they're pregnant. And I do think it's important for Lumen to know, like there is a connection or a correlation between the type of child birth you had. So if you had any sort of traumas in that.
16:29:53 Hearing needle timeframe. You're more likely to have postpard on.
16:29:58 Any woman that has like physiological condition, you know, like thyroid disorder, things like that that can have you a little bit more open for being predisposed. Diabetes, a history of trauma, whether that be emotional, physical, all these have connection.
16:30:15 Hope my mom doesn't call me out for this if she listens to this. But there is also a a historical component to like, how are mothers.
16:30:24 Handle childbirth, too.
16:30:27 Mom don't get mad at me.
16:30:30 Here it is. But she ex, she told me, as I remember I explained to her like, did you ever experience this? Because most of us when we get pregnant and we're starting to stress. And we get that anxiety we reach out to who.
16:30:41 Our best friend, our sister, our moms. Whether or not we had the best relationship with them, and they covered something different, especially like a different generation like my mom didn't say she had depression. My mom didn't say she had postpartum, but what she did tell me is that she was afraid that the girls and we were little.
16:30:59 Would be stolen. And so one of my sister, she actually overfed her.
16:31:04 Because she was afraid that if she beefed her up and gave her more snacks and made her a little bit more. You know, Chunky that she would be less likely to be.
16:31:13 Stolen, and I thought, like, that's a big connection like that's an anxiety right there, but we don't call it that. And it was so. Mind blowing.
16:31:21 You know that these are connections, and these can be rooted.
16:31:24 So thank you for mentioning that that completely.
16:31:27 Opened up another can of worms.
16:31:29 Yes, yeah. And I think if you have a good prescriber, you know, like yourself, and you're able to have those conversations pre.
16:31:39 Birth like that would, I imagine, help a lot of women like going into the postpartum experience, for sure.
16:31:47 Just even being knowledgeable about that.
16:31:47 Yes, yes.
16:31:49 Yes, yes, but it also takes like you said you have to trust that relationship that you have. And the 1st prescriber you're connected with. If it's not a good fit, you are well within your rights. Say I need to seek somebody else in the office, or kind of do a little bit of a heavy lifting and find someone else. But.
16:32:05 Yeah, we're we're all that.
16:32:08 You know you push out a child, you better have good care.
16:32:13 Yeah, yeah, I think this so much acceptance, at least in America, from the woman that I've talked to that you're just gonna get.
16:32:21 Yeah.
16:32:20 Excuse my language like postpartum care.
16:32:23 Keep it. I like.
16:32:31 Yeah.
16:32:34 Yeah,
16:32:25 Like that's just like a part of the dynamic and the storyline. At least, that's what I was told like, oh, they're just gonna care about the baby after you're born, you. But you just get used like that's that's normal. And I was like.
16:32:37 This is normal, like I was just pumped in prod for 40 weeks.
16:32:44 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
16:32:43 And then suddenly, now, I don't matter anymore, because the babies here, like that whole narrative, I think, needs.
16:32:51 Yeah, yeah, you all you now have offspring. So let's go ahead and divert to the offspring. Well, I mean, I thought that was a good that was well said, and I I wouldn't change any way that you mentioned that.
16:33:04 At all.
16:33:05 Yeah.
16:33:07 Yeah, and I don't know it. I guess I get fired up and feel like I'm standing on a platform wanting to scream to everybody like pay attention to the mom, like.
16:33:16 The mom is due.
16:33:17 Yeah, it is true.
16:33:19 Absolutely, I mean, and that, I guess, is a perfect segue to what else was important to me about what I offer at coherent care which is what happens after we have a child, what happens to our body and our hormones? And one big thing is wukidu sex.
16:33:36 And how all of that changes is the perfect segue right? Because.
16:33:39 Yes, great timing.
16:33:42 True connection between, like our hormones and how we feel, and if you know our babies are.
16:33:48 They're latched onto us. Huge release of oxytocin. And that is the same thing that's released during sexual activity. And you're getting that from your baby. You're holding them there, you know. They're touching on you. They're pulling on your breast there, you know. They're all very, you getting their skin to skin, so that contact you don't need the same as with intimacy with the partner. Your body doesn't crave that, and it kind of takes the nose dive.
16:34:12 And that can create some serious dissonance between a woman and her partner in, albeit husband, who, whomever and
16:34:20 On top of that for women period who are on a medication. There's that okay. Well, I have to give up my mental health for my sex drive or my libido. And then if you have a child, okay, well, that's gonna take them to. And you just kind of like you said, write it out, and you can't just ride that out. And I got tired of hearing that, too. So listen. We, you and I can both stand on the rooftops and shout together that we don't like.
16:34:46 Something about it, you know. I went to a compound where I could learn about different.
16:34:54 Some different prescription options for women that could be used as enhancements for sexual arousal. I don't know if this is a bad word. But you already said the so climax, orgasm.
16:35:11 Things like that, and I didn't know that women had options. I don't know about you. All I really knew about men use like a little blue pill, and that's all I thought I didn't think was really out there for us. Besides, like you go to a sex shop, and there's the jellies in the lubricant.
16:35:24 But there are other options you just have to find someone being willing to prescribe into you. And they're not harmful. They're not gonna.
16:35:32 You know, they don't have any long term connections, or even short term. It just helps with dilation, you know, in our pelvic region a little bit of warmth, and that connection of like wanting to do something is reignited even just for the moment, whether it's planned or something, or you want to be consistent, and I love the fact that there are options. And I didn't know there were options, because, believe me, if I wouldn't know.
16:35:58 Yeah.
16:35:58 Whose party would have been a lot different.
16:36:01 Yeah, that's kind of making me think of some random offhand that my one of my mom friends made. And I was like, Oh, like I'm going to talk to a pelvic floor therapist. I should probably ask her about this.
16:36:15 And she had mentioned, there's a type of like loop like well, one not to get too graphic for anyone who's listening, who's never.
16:36:24 We're there. We're on the bus.
16:36:23 Got it, baby, we're what we're already there. So you know, when you have a baby, or you begin to give a vaginal birth. But then end up having a C section. Oftentimes there's tearing that happens that then creates a little bit of a scar which then makes penetration uncomfortable.
16:36:42 Oh, yeah.
16:36:42 And you know, all the other things you've already mentioned are going on. So then it's like, Okay, well, how if you wanna have intercourse like, how do you do that without even having pain.
16:37:04 Right.
16:36:55 Right. And so my pelvic floor therapist was suggesting different things. So also any good pelvic floor therapists, you definitely probably you probably need one postpartum, regardless wh. Whether you go talk to them about sex or not. But in my case I ended up getting like
16:37:13 After talking to her, I went to my provider or my prescriber, and I end up getting like a cream that helps with like the healing of the scar tissue to allow for penetration to not be as.
16:37:23 Oh, yeah. The microtears. Yeah.
16:37:28 Yeah.
16:37:26 Yeah, uncomfortable. So I was like, what like.
16:37:31 I? Yes, I had to go to 2 providers. To figure this out would have been nice for just my.
16:37:36 Yeah.
16:37:35 My Obn person to mention it. But that's okay. It didn't happen. It eventually got there. And yeah, what
16:37:42 Yeah.
16:37:46 Wow!
16:37:43 What a saver for the public discomfort. So yeah, I definitely think.
16:37:49 Absolutely.
16:37:52 Yeah, yeah.
16:37:57 Yeah. Over time.
16:37:50 Should be aware that they exist and not just like, say, like, Oh, this is just going to be painful, or this is just what I have to deal with, because this is part of most part of experience.
16:38:00 Yeah, no, I I love that. You mentioned that, too, and I just wanted to make a quick. There, too, is like.
16:38:06 OBIN s. And people go there. They're not.
16:38:10 There. That's not their wheelhouse, you know. Wheelhouse isn't mental healthcare, and often they'll refer out for more specialist care.
16:38:18 And as women, we just kind of see them as like they're the house.
16:38:27 That's okay.
16:38:23 They are the. They are the mothership. We go there, and they know everything.
16:38:32 Yeah.
16:38:34 Yeah, I do think sometimes when people go to the doctor, and I've worked with people like this, and even myself, like.
16:38:39 We are a doctor, you should know everything there is to know. But that's just not true. So going to.
16:38:44 Very specific provider who's like, well versed in the issue that you're facing. Whether it's about postpartum or anything in life is really important.
16:38:54 Absolutely, absolutely.
16:38:56 Yeah, so I mean, I just.
16:38:58 Wanna make sure that women know that there are options out there, and they don't have to be long term. They can be short term, and it doesn't have to be definitive on whether or not you have.
16:39:10 Your breastfeeding or not. You know there are still options for those, and I know that some people, if I do that, then no, there are still options for us and our mental. We're not mentally sound.
16:39:20 You know we're not going to be able to get that that baby or that child.
16:39:25 What they deserve, you know.
16:39:29 Yeah, well, I also want to say, if I became too.
16:39:34 Like too graphic with any of my descriptions. Maybe we should put a trigger warning on top of this episode, but.
16:39:40 Disclaimer.
16:39:41 Disclaimer.
16:39:43 Listen. The it already says it on there on the info part, so you would love to open wide open.
16:39:51 I hope that both you know your story as well as the stories that I've shared, and information that we've shared here today can empower women to.
16:39:59 Ask their providers reach out for more specialized help like not be afraid to maybe say the thing that you feel guilty, or feel shame about because there are other women that are going through these things, and there is help for you. So.
16:40:15 That's just my last thing that I wanted to really put out there. But yeah, where can people find you, and how? What are their offerings. Are you having right now that you want people to know about.
16:40:26 Absolutely. Yeah, they can absolutely get in touch. You can go to my website@coherentcare.org my email is support at coherent care. Dotor.
16:40:38 I'm gonna leave some information.
16:40:42 With your practice as well. You know people want to get in touch, and I I will make a connection between a like a promo code.
16:40:52 For 30% off of comprehensive evaluations. And seasonally, I do do other.
16:40:59 Other little promo things like the fall. $50 off things like that, just like, you know. Keep it fun and put more money back in people's pockets. But yeah, I would.
16:41:08 Absolutely love to do a discovery call with anybody who's interested, and whether that means we address.
16:41:14 View during, you know.
16:41:16 Whatever phase you're in as a woman, you know for, and whether it be enhancements or just.
16:41:23 Mental connection, and getting some evaluation and looking at different options that are.
16:41:27 Medical vitamin supplement injections all that.
16:41:31 I gotcha.
16:41:33 Awesome. And all this information will also be on our website as well as in the show notes. So don't feel like you have to, you know quickly. Write everything down. It'll be available. And yes, thank you so much for being on today.